Missing user name data elements Philip Robinson (01 Apr 2019 16:30 EDT)
RE: Missing user name data elements Maura Byrne (01 Apr 2019 16:38 EDT)
RE: Missing user name data elements Erin Nettifee (01 Apr 2019 16:39 EDT)
Re: Missing user name data elements Filip Jakobsen (01 Apr 2019 18:25 EDT)
Re: Missing user name data elements Erin Nettifee (01 Apr 2019 19:18 EDT)
Re: Missing user name data elements Filip Jakobsen (02 Apr 2019 04:46 EDT)
RE: Missing user name data elements Wallwork, Todd (02 Apr 2019 10:09 EDT)
Re: Missing user name data elements Uschi Klute (02 Apr 2019 10:41 EDT)
RE: Missing user name data elements Andrea Loigman (02 Apr 2019 11:00 EDT)
Re: Missing user name data elements Uschi Klute (02 Apr 2019 11:09 EDT)
RE: Missing user name data elements Andrea Loigman (02 Apr 2019 17:23 EDT)
Re: Missing user name data elements Tania Hewes Fersenheim (02 Apr 2019 12:43 EDT)
RE: Missing user name data elements Karen Newbery (02 Apr 2019 12:45 EDT)
RE: Missing user name data elements Karen Newbery (02 Apr 2019 13:00 EDT)

Re: Missing user name data elements Uschi Klute 02 Apr 2019 11:08 EDT

Dear Andrea,

Am 02.04.2019 um 17:00 schrieb Andrea Loigman:
> Thanks Uschi.
>
>  
>
> Sorry – looking at this document I’m a bit confused.  
>
> Is User Metadata
> (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/121RpsJNaewhQEKb7k58eNVIhZ7N9oSWowNRJGYjPJ2M/edit#gid=0
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/121RpsJNaewhQEKb7k58eNVIhZ7N9oSWowNRJGYjPJ2M/edit%23gid=0>)

I get this message when I call the link
"File cannot currently be opened. Check the address and try again."

Perhaps restricted access?
Can you have a look, please?

The address which is linked to my Google account is: uschiklute@web.de

Uschi

> valid ?   Among other question in this document the field labeled
> ‘Address type’ (line 24 on tab 1)  is not marked as ‘include in folio’. 
>  Not only is it necessary in and of itself, it is also listed as the
> determiner of permissions for all of the other elements in the “Address
> (repeatable field group)”.
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andrea
>
>  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> *From:*user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org
> <user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org> *On Behalf Of *Uschi Klute
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 2, 2019 10:41 AM
> *To:* user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org
> *Subject:* Re: Missing user name data elements
>
>  
>
> yes, the Middle Name has been implemented since a long time:
>
> If you have a look at the JSON schema
>
> https://github.com/folio-org/mod-users/blob/master/ramls/userdata.json
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_folio-2Dorg_mod-2Dusers_blob_master_ramls_userdata.json&d=DwMFaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=lTpZ9W_QmXeJ6NvmGz-w2A&m=9_fpYsVsFDMa_Z-p_eZkjLpkYyhRS71iyEp-aFTLhdI&s=D02k8PLPR9o-vnco1w1XNgDWMIlqJfA76inKhd6OE-Y&e=>
>
> you won't find a "Titles" field - but we do need this, absolutely.
>
>  
>
> Am 02.04.2019 um 16:09 schrieb Wallwork, Todd:
>
>     Is this User Metadata doc still accurate?
>
>      
>
>     https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/121RpsJNaewhQEKb7k58eNVIhZ7N9oSWowNRJGYjPJ2M
>     <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_121RpsJNaewhQEKb7k58eNVIhZ7N9oSWowNRJGYjPJ2M&d=DwMFaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=lTpZ9W_QmXeJ6NvmGz-w2A&m=9_fpYsVsFDMa_Z-p_eZkjLpkYyhRS71iyEp-aFTLhdI&s=tBtDvIWV3s_4pbHbENm1D1f3neJa3JOL-bpE_UURxP4&e=>
>
>      
>
>     -          Middle name is listed as “include in FOLIO”
>
>     -          There’s a question listed in the first name row as
>     whether we want to collect a preferred name/nickname.  Preferred
>     name/nickname is not included in the doc. 
>
>     -          Honorifics are listed under Titles and the Title Values
>     sheet. Listed as “Include in FOLIO”
>
>     -          Suffixes are not listed but I seem to remember that
>     coming up but couldn’t say when or in what context
>
>      
>
>     There is also this doc:
>
>      
>
>     https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jiMJz-wTBhSkpVrJOFQh2tGmm9-AXATphu2dMcACkws
>     <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__docs.google.com_spreadsheets_d_1jiMJz-2DwTBhSkpVrJOFQh2tGmm9-2DAXATphu2dMcACkws&d=DwMFaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=lTpZ9W_QmXeJ6NvmGz-w2A&m=9_fpYsVsFDMa_Z-p_eZkjLpkYyhRS71iyEp-aFTLhdI&s=BFlt7oXBNNu7IoU1rT4H9xPpSQSoQpcCJgUQOvaUpHY&e=>
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>  
>
> this is the spreadsheet we worked with in the Data Migration Group.
>
> Uschi
>
>  
>
>     *From:*user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org
>     <mailto:user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org>
>     <user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org>
>     <mailto:user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org> *On Behalf Of
>     *Erin Nettifee
>     *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2019 6:18 PM
>     *To:* user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org
>     <mailto:user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org>;
>     user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org
>     <mailto:user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org>
>     *Subject:* Re: Missing user name data elements
>
>      
>
>     Hi Filip,
>
>      
>
>     Duke would consider the lack of these fields to be a block for go
>     live. Whether that means the solution is adding a field to the user
>     module or using custom fields, I don’t know. Is there a timeline yet
>     for this feature’s development?
>
>      
>
>     There’s an ongoing question too about whether custom fields would
>     offer the functionality needed. Eg, I don’t want to just display a
>     preferred name in the user app, I want it to be used in notices when
>     it’s populated, maybe kept in certain audit trails, use it in our
>     discovery layer, etc.
>
>      
>
>     Best,
>
>     Erin
>
>      
>
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>      
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>     *From:*user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org
>     <mailto:user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org> on behalf of
>     Filip Jakobsen <filip@samhaeng.com <mailto:filip@samhaeng.com>>
>     *Sent:* Monday, April 1, 2019 6:25 PM
>     *To:* user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org
>     <mailto:user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org>
>     *Subject:* Re: Missing user name data elements
>
>      
>
>     Hi folks,
>
>      
>
>     If this discussion concerns the short term, please ignore this message.
>
>      
>
>     If this discussion concerns the long term, and if only some
>     institutions want some of the mentioned fields, this seems like an
>     excellent candidate for the "custom fields" feature, where each
>     institution could potentially adapt the fields that exist and/or
>     appear, and how they behave (see an introduction to it here:
>     https://discuss.folio.org/t/custom-fields-ux-iteration-1/1849
>     <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__discuss.folio.org_t_custom-2Dfields-2Dux-2Diteration-2D1_1849&d=DwMFaQ&c=imBPVzF25OnBgGmVOlcsiEgHoG1i6YHLR0Sj_gZ4adc&r=V6wYZ_ugeMEfaUTYQDN-iDFY0gVE7E-duUuihBgxZuM&m=f24woCgxpadMQcBZYjSrjAnmdGs5e358aks7QNtP26Y&s=oY8W1-xCI3XpSWyvATGyYvRlOUmCZZWrQrrRKc06O08&e=>).
>     The feature is not yet in development, and as such is only a UX
>     concept at present time. However, I just wanted to make you all
>     aware of it so that you might keep it in mind for any discussions
>     where applicable.
>
>      
>
>     Please let me know if you have any questions, advice or ideas about
>     the notion of custom fields.
>
>      
>
>     Best regards
>
>      
>
>     *Filip Jakobsen*
>     CEO & founder
>
>     +4531242526
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>     filip@samhaeng.com <mailto:filip@samhaeng.com>
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>
>         On 1 Apr 2019, at 22.39, Erin Nettifee <erin.nettifee@duke.edu
>         <mailto:erin.nettifee@duke.edu>> wrote:
>
>          
>
>         There are no fields for them appearing on the UI. I don't know
>         if that means they might still be there somewhere.
>
>         -Erin
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org
>         <mailto:user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org>
>         <user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org
>         <mailto:user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org>> On
>         Behalf Of Maura Byrne
>         Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 4:38 PM
>         To: user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org
>         <mailto:user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org>
>         Subject: RE: Missing user name data elements
>
>         I think we should at least touch base about it.  Are they
>         missing from the record entirely?  Those might be fields that
>         are legal to leave blank, and they might not be populating by
>         default.  
>
>         -mcb
>
>         Maura Byrne
>         Integrated Library Systems
>         University of Chicago Library
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         From: user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org
>         <mailto:user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org>
>         [mailto:user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org] On Behalf
>         Of Philip Robinson
>         Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 3:30 PM
>         To: user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org
>         <mailto:user-mgmt@ole-lists.openlibraryfoundation.org>
>         Subject: Missing user name data elements
>
>         Hi,
>
>         A colleague in the Resource Access SIG reports that a few
>         important user name fields may be missing:
>
>         preferredFirstName, Middle Name, Honorific, and Suffix.
>
>         At Cornell, preferred names are really important, which may be
>         true for other Unis as well. Middle Name is helpful, especially
>         for many non-English names, and we use "Jr, III"  etc. in
>         Suffix. Honorific isn't so important to us, but it is for other
>         institutions.
>
>         Has anyone else noticed that and, if so, should we discuss it at
>         the next meeting?
>
>         Thanks,
>
>         Phil
>
>
>         Philip Robinson
>         Director of Library Systems
>         Cornell University
>         (607) 255-0098
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