Thanks Andrea! Understood on the 'offset' capability in either long-term/short-term scenarios.
Sean
Hi Sean,
I think this is a terrific idea and would love to see it happen. In both cases we’d still want the ability to offset the ‘next open hours/day’ option.
BTW – we have had at least one library represented in the SIG mention closing mid-day and I imagine it would happen with some frequency at small and special collection locations.
Thank you,
Andrea
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Hi David,
> “Keep the current due date/time”
Yes, I was thinking the same thing actually. Thanks for the quick response!
Sean
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This seems like a fruitful direction, though we don’t have the specific need of mid-day closed hours, clearly separating long and short erms loans seems useful more generally.
One small suggestion in terms of language, for short term loans, the pulldown should read “Keep the current due date/time” rather than simply “Keep the current due date” as that further clarifies the difference between long and short term loans.
Best,
David
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Hi RA-SIG,
When we reviewed the slides for Closed Library Due Date Management (CLDDM) scenarios for Loan Policies, we stopped short of talking specifically about certain short-term loans (i.e., loan intervals in hours or minutes) scenarios. In considering the nature of these loans, I'm wondering if a rule-based selection list for long- vs. short-term loans makes sense. I'm also wondering about a scenario that might drive a rewording of the 'Move to the beginning of the next open day' option.
Given that service points may have closed hours mid-day (valid?), it seems likely that if short-term loans become due during that mid-day closed window, you'd likely rather have the loan become due when the service point reopens the same day, rather than the beginning of the next open day. Is this true? Here's an example:
- Service point A hours: 8AM-11:30AM; 1:30PM-11:30PM (i.e., closed 2 hrs mid-day)
- Given a 2hr loan made at 11:00AM, it's due time would be 1PM during the closed window
- It seems likely that you'd want the item back a 1:30 the same day when the service point reopens (opening time offset notwithstanding) rather than 8AM the next morning.
If that is the case, we'll want to include that logic in the due-time calculations to ensure that the system respects multiple open-hour periods in a day.
Also, given the different nature of due date/time for long-term vs. short term, it seems like it might be beneficial to change how the Loan Policy form behaves under these different loan intervals. Here is how we're thinking about this:
1) - Long-term loans (loan intervals = Days|Weeks|Months)
- CLDDM pull-down:
- Keep the current due date
- Move to the end of the previous open day
- Move to the end of the next open day
- Move to the end of the current day
2) - Short-term loans (loan intervals = Minutes|Hours)
- CLDDM pull-down:
- Keep the current due date
- Move to the end of the current service point hours
- Move to the beginning of the next open service point hours
Hopefully, we can get a chance to discuss this during tomorrow's meeting. That said, can you let me know if I'm on the right track here? If so, I would like to get any UI work queued up for the developers and preview these possible changes at an earlier dev meeting tomorrow.
Thanks.
Sean
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